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Monday, June 10, 2013

Beware of those advertising great endtime Revivals and Awakenings

Beware of those promoting a new Great Awakening or great Revival because of what scripture teaches in the end times.


Most, if not all of the preachers and evangelists (many call themselves prophets and apostles) agree that the time is short - the end is near. Among Christians in general, there is a great feeling of urgency to go about the task that has been set before the Church...to preach the gospel to all the nations. There is also general agreement that the Church has been, and to a degree, is still lazy, content to sit in their pews, pay their tithes, and bask in the reflected glory of their own little ponds. Most of the churches spend more time arguing with each other over jots and tittles than in going about their real job - reaching a lost and dying world with the gospel of Jesus Christ.

While all Christians want to see a move of God, and conversions by the thousands (or even millions), we must examine several things in the light of The Word of God, and also in the light of published (written and spoken) statements made by those who are advertising this great revival and move of God. Links to other sites will be obvious by their blue color, so that you may go and read for yourself those things that are said that have a bearing on these questions. First and foremost is a small admonition that will weave a thread throughout this study. We, as Christians, live by faith...NOT by sight. Beyond that, I believe that most of us can agree-we are in the end times, spoken of in The Word, and it won't be very long before we see the rise of the anti-christ and his false prophet. But what does The Word say about these times? Is there going to be a great worldwide revival? What about the ''move of the spirit'' as typified in the Toronto Blessing/Vineyard and Brownsville Revival movement, and its attendant functionaries and proponents, such as Steve Hill, Benny Hinn, Rod Parsley, Paul Crouch, Kenneth Copeland, et al? What about the moral fiber of these alleged prophets of God? This question comes into play simply because of the influence these people have over thousands of believers throughout the world, and the millions of dollars being given to them to support their ministries so as to create this world wide revival.

This brings us to the question of: If there is no end time revival (or move of God) then how do we explain all the manifestations that are occurring in various places, and the appearance of revival that is occurring. How do we explain all the thousands upon thousands in other places that are coming to God during the crusades.

First, I believe that we need to examine very carefully the "manifestations" that are occurring in places like the Toronto Vineyard (now the Airport ??????), or at Brownsville AoG, or in the crusades that Benny Hinn puts on. The links appearing here will go into far more detail, and are from eyewitnesses. Aside from that, I can attest to having seen, on tape and on tv some of the manifestations spoken of. I find, in scripture, no corresponding description to what I have observed other than in Mark 1:23-26, where Jesus cast a demon out of a man in the synagogue, and after the "spirit had torn him", it departed. Try as I might, I can find no place, in Old Testament or New, where there are examples of people shaking violently, twitching uncontrollably, flopping on the floor like fish out of water, or laughing for hours on end in a manner more devilish than truly happy. I must admit to having the hair on my neck stand up when I observed many of these things, and failing at any time to receive a witness of the Holy Spirit that these things were from God. I do not doubt that the things, in most cases, were real, but the real question is from what spirit they came. In over 20 years of ministry, I have NEVER seen a manifestation of one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit that did not, unequivocally, point to Jesus Christ, and glorify God in the doing of it. The Holy Spirit does not bring attention to Himself or to the person being used, but ONLY to Jesus Christ. As Jesus said "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth; for HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall GLORIFY ME..." John 16:13-14. Many times during ministry, I have seen or heard things that the Holy Spirit did not bear witness with, and can be best explained as the flesh trying to simulate spiritual things, but these things I have observed on TBN, and via Brownsville tapes bear the imprint of the devil himself, not the Spirit of God.

Of great importance here is a question concerning the moral character of the people purporting to be instruments and ministers of God. Paul, in I Timothy gives a reasonable explanation of the type of character that must be possessed by a man of God, When talking about bishops, or deacons (translate pastors, shepherds, elders, or those in positions of spiritual leadership), two points become quickly obvious. One, that the person must have a good report of them which are without, and two, that they be not doubletongued, or greedy of money, and must HOLD THE MYSTERY OF THE FAITH IN PURE CONSCIENCE. My understanding of these passages are that a minister of God cannot do things in such a way as to cause those who do not know God (those who are without) to question him, or to bring reproach upon the name of God.

The second thing that a minister of God cannot be is doubletongued (lying, fibbing, exaggerating, stretching, or wishy-washy depending upon who he is talking to). I would submit that many of the ministers we have today such as Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, Steve Hill and others fail miserably in the question of being doubletongued. Aside from outright lies that they have been caught in, none of them seem to believe that the scripture is profitable for reproof, and reject any and all admonition from others concerning their heretical statements. Paul Crouch in particular has vocally cursed any who would dare to point out anything to him that does not meet with his own belief. When ministers of God presume to place themselves above the Word of God, and immune from what it says, or think to change what the Word says into something they want it to say, then they have gone beyond the point of just being in error, and fall squarely into the definition of ''ungodly men who have crept in''(Jude). ''Clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots...to who is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever''.



Rodney Howard Browne started this off around 1987 when he stated “In 1987 when the Lord opened the door for us to come to the USA. He told us to stir up the churches, to get them on fire for God, so they would be stirred to win the lost.

Out of this came The Toronto Blessing, Pensacola Blessing, Lakeland with Todd Bentley and many other venues featuring bizarre manifestations that includes slain in the spirit, people acting like animals and many other weird manifestations not found in the scriptures.

Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner and many others also advertise their meeting as Great Awakenings.

Dan Bohi advertises his revivals as Great Awakenings as well. Here is what Dan’s stated mission is…

“A calling to awaken the church of Jesus Christ

to the power, purity, and freedom of the Spirit-Filled life,

found, realized, experienced and exhibited

in the lives of believers in the Book of Acts.”

It all sounds good doesn’t it?

What Christian does not want revival which would cause us to turn from all the false teachings that is rampant in the church today.

But wait the above listed are all false teachers so if a great Awakening or Great Revival would cause us to wake up, read scripture and then as a result not just live sanctified lives but turn from false teaching.

We would have to turn from all the above teachers if what they claim is happening.

But wait lets hold on the brakes and see what scripture teaches on this matter.

Does the Word of God tell us of an end-times world-wide or ''great" revival?

The closest we can come to a clear statement of what the end times shall be like is found in Jesus' words to His disciples in Matthew 24, sometimes referred to as the Olivet Discourse. The disciples came to Jesus, and asked:

vs.3: Tell us, when shall these thing be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

vs.4: And Jesus answered and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.

vs.5: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

vs.6: and ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

vs.7: For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

vs.8: All these are the beginning of sorrows.

vs9: Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

vs.10: and then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

vs.11: and many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

vs.12: and because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

vs.13: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

vs.14: and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then shall the end come.

vs.38: for as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark...

There are a number of points made in this discourse, and we will examine them one by one.

Vs.4-take heed that no man deceive you. Jesus was making clear that there would be people who would attempt, in any number of ways, to deceive the believer. By what means He did not expound upon, other than to say...

Vs.5-many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ. The construction of this sentence leaves the possibility that not only would some come saying that they were the christ (Mayatreya is a recent example), but of more importance, since Jesus was talking to His disciples (true believers), that many would come, simply, in His name, meaning that they were professing Christians supposedly ministering in the name of Jesus. That such people can exist is borne out in many books throughout the New Testament, such as Timothy, Peter, James, John, and Jude. Of interesting note here is a statement made, and supported by others, by Kenneth Copeland, about being ''a little Christ walking around up here''.

Vs.11- and many false prophets shall arise, and shall deceive many. Many Christians tend to rely upon an oft quoted section of the Old Testament concerning false prophets, in which God says that we shall know a false prophet if what he says does not come to pass. Assumption: if something DOES come to pass, then the prophet must be righteous. What is often skipped is the little squib in Deuteronomy 13:1-3, where God says if there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a SIGN or a WONDER, and the sign or the wonder COME TO PASS...thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Puts us in a bind as to who to believe, doesn't it? No. All we have to do is check out what the person is saying, and weigh it against the Word of God. If it doesn't line up, then they don't, and are to be ignored. Many today use scripture to support or destroy certain beliefs or points that they are trying to make, but we are admonished to use all scripture, which is given by God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2Tim3:16). The part concerning reproof and correction will come into serious play a little later.

Vs.14 - and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations... I think it is very important to note that Jesus said this gospel...shall be PREACHED (or published)...for a witness. Nowhere did Jesus say that the gospel shall be believed, or acted upon, or cause millions of conversions...only that it would be preached as a witness. The sinner cannot know he is a sinner unless the gospel of righteousness is preached to him, nor can he repent unless he knows..and how shall they know, if there is no preacher? Still, the point is that although we may use many different means (including this web presentation) to preach the gospel, there is no guarantee from scripture or otherwise that it will be believed and acted upon. Indeed, scripture in Matt.24:9-10 makes very clear that true gospel preachers and true believers will be hated, and afflicted, and even killed.

Vs.38-as it was in the days of Noah... I will have to admit here to a great deal of speculation concerning just exactly what it was like then. The Bible tells us only that God told Noah to build an ark because He was disgusted with the actions of mankind, and He was going to destroy them. Obviously, Noah was chosen because he conducted himself in a manner that was pleasing to God, and did not do those things that the rest of mankind was doing. The real speculation enters here. I think it is reasonable to assume that while Noah was gathering materials, and building what was a VERY large boat (ship?), some of the townsfolk had to be curious. I am sure that at some point, these people asked Noah what he was doing. Noah, upon explaining that he was building an ark, was then asked why? ''So that I can ride out the flood''. What is a flood? ''A whole lot of water''. Since there had not been rain on the earth up til this time, I doubt the people understood, and if Noah also said (I'm sure he did) that God had told him to do it, these worldly people had to have made a lot of fun of Noah. That happens to be a lot like today. People of the world are complete in their own eyes, and make fun of the things of God, even to the point of trying to stop Christians (particularly) and just about any other religious types from doing or saying anything that might ''offend'' them. Indeed, many are offended because of Christ.

All of this leads us to the point where we may reasonably say that the end times will be characterized by a number of things:

1. Increasing denial of God by the world.

2. Increasing ungodliness in activity.

3. Increasing demand by religious people for hearing & experiencing only what they want.

4. Increasing apostasia from sound doctrine and truth.

Rather than a ''great revival'', what we will see (and are currently seeing) is the apostasy of those claiming to be Christian, a great falling away from the truth of Jesus Christ and the written Word of God.

So again beware of those who go out and proclaim that they will bring a great Awakening to the church in these endtimes we are in.

Why because I say so?

No because the scriptures do not teach it.



Other sources John 8:12.com

And the various other false teachers listed websites and FB pages

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Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Beware the Goofy World of Dan Bohi

From Dans own FB page."Jesus please give us the courage to allow your Spirit to have complete freedom. Please come on your Glory this week in Castro Valley. We need you more than ever."
end quote
From Chuck Milhuff on Dans FB page"Dan the devil HATES what you are doing"
Well now we have reported that during Dan's meetings people are being slain in the spirit.
A comment from one who was at one of Dans rallies
"I could write a book about my experiences over the last eight years but I am hopeful that we will learn from the past. Of course I see that we are on Dan's calendar again in July. I find it interesting that Dan gave instructions in our local church that we will not allow being slain in the spirit (I believe he was given those boundaries). However, just a few days latter he was back at it in other churches. It was also documented in his newsletter. I guess he thinks it is ok to change his message depending on his audience. It seems hypocritical to me."
So in other words Dan has control of the manifestations of this spirit. If a church doesnt like something Dan simply wont make it happen.
Look at where the focus is here folks.
Its on man not the Holy Spirit.
If this was the true Holy Spirit He would not be controlled dependant on what a church or person desires.
If he wanted a whole congregation to fall down He for sure could do this.
So either people are goofing and falling out in Dans meetings just to be a team player.
Or Dan is channeling something else.
So to Chucks article I would say Chuck is mislead.
Here is an article written by a friend of me and Manny Silva's
A Return to Azusa Street:


The Message of Dan Bohi

Introduction

These are more or less people whose experience is unsatisfactory, who have never been sanctified

wholly, or have lost the precious work out of their hearts, who will run after the hope of

exceptional or marvelous things, to their own further undoing. People who have the precious,

satisfactory experience of Christ revealed in the heart by the Holy Spirit, do not hanker after

strange fire, nor run after every suppositional gift, nor are they blown about by every wind of

doctrine. There is rest only in the old paths where the Holy Spirit Himself imparts to the soul

directly the witness of His cleansing and indwelling.1

On April 9th in 1906, a group of what would be now considered charismatic Christians

gathered into a building located at 312 Azusa Street in the city of Los Angeles, California. Led by

William Seymour, a holiness pastor who studied under the Pentecostal minister Charles Parham, this

group claimed to have come under the active and miraculous influence of the Holy Spirit, citing as

evidence the return of signs and wonders in their midst, as well as the professed evidence of speaking

in tongues. That day, the Azusa Street Revival, the movement which ultimately gave way to the

modern Pentecostal/charismatic movement within American evangelicalism, was born, and the

movement would continue for the better part of the next nine years.

The movement did not escape the notice of ministers on the outside, and a number of these

clergymen took the time to investigate the phenomenon, to see whether or not the things happening

at Azusa Street could be considered true works of the Holy Spirit. One of those ministers who

examined the happenings in this newly formed congregation was Phineas Bresee, the founder of the

Church of the Nazarene denomination, and a staunch adherent to the Wesleyan doctrine of holiness.

When the movement was introduced to outsiders such as Bresee, there was no doubt that Seymour

and other congregants of the church which claimed signs and wonders for itself hoped that such

"manifestations of the Spirit" would become a contagious force that would spread itself throughout

the other churches and spread like wildfire throughout the land. They hoped for acceptance, all the

while exalting what they perceived to be the divine work of God in their midst.

But while some ministers may have given ear to Seymour's pleas for legitimate recognition

and participation in the work of the Holy Spirit, Bresee rejected it instead, and he took to print in

order to state his opposition to the Asuza Street revival. In December of 1906, Bresee published in

the Nazarene Messenger a summary of the happenings at Azusa Street, and gave a negative

evaluation of the movement. In the eyes of Bresee, Azusa was a distraction to the things of God:

Anything that is out of the good old way of entire sanctification, by the truth, through the blood,

by the baptism with the Holy Ghost and fire, which entirely separates and burns up the chaff of

carnality, and then abides to teach, lead, and empower, may well be halted and carefully examined

before being admitted to confidence, or given the semi-endorsement of publication.2

Bresee saw the Pentecostal movement as nothing more than a diversion from biblical

Christianity. As a result, he wanted no part of the movement, and wanted his beloved Church of the

Nazarene (then only a fledgling denomination) to abstain from Azusa's corrupting influence. For as

long as he pastored, Bresee held fast to his conviction that Azusa Street was "fanaticism... fostered

with heretical teaching."3 He saw the holiness doctrine of the Nazarene church incompatible with the

pursuit of miracles and the seeking after of strange tongues.

By no means was Bresee the only minister to condemn the happenings at the Los Angeles

location. Other renowned and scholarly ministers, such as R.A. Torrey, G. Campbell Morgan, and H.

A. Ironside responded with similar disdain concerning the Azusa Street movement, and it has been

cited by authors that, by the time of the movement's end in 1915, the initially Christianized Azusa

Street Revival had degenerated into a spiritist movement, as occultists had begun to join in with the

congregation, doing so without any signs of repentance from dabbling in magic and witchcraft.

Whatever else William Seymour had intended for Azusa Street to be in the beginning, the evidence

suggests that it had become something very different and very distant from orthodox Christianity at

its end.4

The modern church and Pentecostalism

However, this was not the end. While Azusa Street itself fizzled and died, the movement

succeeded in planting the seeds of the modern Pentecostal and charismatic movement into American

evangelicalism. Crossing boundaries of social, racial, and denominational sorts, and fueled by recent

church innovations such as the altar call (an invention of the nineteenth century pragmatic evangelist

Charles Finney), Pentecostalism in part or whole began to pervade the Sunday morning pews and

pulpits of a great many churches. The attraction came to parishioners in the forms of the attesting of

signs and wonders such as miraculous healing and prophetic visions, the speaking of tongues (and in

particular the "prayer tongue" used in services) and the exuberant, extroverted lifestyles of those who

participated in the movement, both in and out of church.

Along with this came an influx of "faith-healers," ministers who claimed for themselves the

ability given by God to supernaturally heal those who came forward in services and requested

healing, such as William Branham, Oral Roberts, Aimee Semple McPherson, and Kathryn Kuhlman.

Meetings scheduled for these evangelistic miracle workers often brought in massive audiences filled

with those hopeful to experience the healing touch from God, with a great many of them claiming to

have their petitions fulfilled through prayer, laying on of hands, or in being "slain in the Spirit."5

As a result of these things, people either began to flock to Pentecostal services in droves,

leaving their "dead" churches for what they considered to be a vibrant and Spirit-filled body of

believers, or they began to incorporate things seen in Pentecostalism (such as a more emotion-driven

approach to service time, or a heavier emphasis on "listening for God's voice" rather than seeking

God through the Scriptures) into their own congregations. More and more, the measure of

spirituality came not in the form of correct doctrine, but in the form of experience evaluated by

hearing "personal words from God," being "in the Spirit" during singing time via visible movement,

or the exercise of speaking in tongues, even if such activities disrupted the normal flow of a church

service.

Of course, not all of this "new direction in the Holy Spirit" was accepted across the board

without question. Concern was raised over the fact that many of the earliest leaders of the Pentecostal

movement taught questionable doctrines, such as a denial of the Trinity and that Cain was the

product of a sexual union between the serpent and Eve. The movement also suffered as the result of

failed prophetic predictions, such as William Seymour's prediction of Christ's return in 1977, among

others.6 Doubts over the legitimacy of the healing ministries arose, as critics cited the fact that the

professing healers performed their "miracles" in a church or a tent meeting rather than in a hospital.

Nor did it help the movement when it was revealed that some of the healers (such as Ms. Kuhlman)

were raking in rather lucrative amounts of money.

Still, despite this, the movement enjoyed an overall measure of success, a success that

continues today, as the modern evangelical church overall has opened its doors to a good measure of

Pentecostalism. Popular evangelical figures such as Joel Osteen and Joyce Meyer identify themselves

with the charismatic/Pentecostal movement, even though not all of their audience has membership in

Pentecostal churches. The modern style of contemporary worship accepted by many churches (both

Pentecostal and non-Pentecostal) is a style that only a generation or two ago was found almost

exclusively in charismatic/Pentecostal circles. A greater emphasis on listening to the voice of the

Holy Spirit in a manner separate from the study of the Scriptures can be found in a wide array of

sermons, articles, and books, even if the authors do not immediately identify with the Pentecostal

movement. In short, a significant portion of the American evangelical church has become, to a

greater or lesser degree, "Pentecostalized."

With regard to the above matters, the Nazarene denomination is no exception to this rule, as

many parishioners have seen their pews changed into folding seats, their organs and pianos replaced

by rhythm sections and praise leaders, and their pastors emphasize a relationship with God that at

times can come across as an almost mystical and existential experience. But perhaps the most

immediate and egregious change in this area can be seen with the arrival of a speaker who openly

and eagerly embraces most tenets, if not all, of the pentecostal/charismatic movement and is

undertaking an aggressive campaign to see such manifestations in the Nazarene denomination. This

speaker has been welcomed with open arms in many Nazarene churches in America, and his message

makes its way into the ears of multiple congregations across the nation. This speaker is a man by the

name of Dan Bohi.

Who is Dan Bohi?7

The son of a Nazarene evangelist who traveled extensively in his ministerial work, Dan Bohi

was raised in Olathe, Kansas, and (based upon the information gathered) grew up in a strong

Nazarene home. When it came time for college, Dan enrolled in Mid-America Nazarene University,

where he played college basketball and also met his future wife Debbie Owens. Upon graduation,

Dan ventured into the construction business with his father-in-law, which apparently brought about

for him a solid financial base so that he could take care of himself and his family.

In June of 1995, Bohi was involved in an accident. Severely injured due to a collision with a

heavy construction truck, Dan was laid up in the hospital for a considerable amount of time, with

little to do besides read the Bible, an exercise which he engaged in daily and for many hours. As a

result, Dan claimed to have a "personal encounter with Jesus that was truly life-changing," and not

long after his recovery from his accident, Dan Bohi decided to leave the world of construction and

venture into the work of evangelism.

Since then, Bohi has been at work full-time as an evangelist, and is sought after by many in

the Nazarene church. His schedule does not seem to include many empty Sundays, and it is not

unheard of for him to spend more than one day in any given location for the purpose of revival

meetings (or, as it was referred to in one church, "Spiritual Renewal"). Though he does not profess

to have any sort of formal ministerial training and has been referred to by other Nazarenes as a

layman, Dan Bohi believes that he is called by God to do what he does, and that his work is God's

work in the Nazarene church.

In addition to the claim of evangelism, Dan Bohi is considered to be a continuationist, which

means that he advocates what he believes to be the apostolic-era gifts of the Spirit, and declares that

these signs and wonders are to accompany the preaching of the Word of God today. To bolster this

assertion, Bohi has repeatedly testified that healings accompany his ministry, and his claims are

supported by many who have attended his meetings and believed that a manifestation of the Spirit

was present in one form or another, either through miraculous events or through the transformation

of lives. Echoing the messages heard in the charismatic and Pentecostal churches like the Assemblies

of God and The Vineyard Church, as well as topics spoken about by prominent "signs and wonders"

advocates such as Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland, Dan Bohi invites the Church of the Nazarene

to join in with these movements and to experience what he believes to be the work of the Holy Spirit

in supernatural ways.

The Nazarene Reaction

The general mood of those who have been introduced to Dan Bohi has been one of

enthusiasm and favor. Many have testified to what they believe was a working of God in some way

while Dan was preaching. Some have claimed healing for issues such as alcoholism and broken

relationships. Others say they have experienced a renewed relationship with the Lord and a fresh

outpouring of the Holy Spirit on their lives. A cursory perusal of the Internet will reveal written

testimonies by people from the Nazarene church who attended a Bohi event and came away from it

relating a strong and powerful story.8

However, not all Nazarenes are pleased with the work of Dan Bohi.9 Some have expressed

concern for what they believe is Dan's overemphasis on spiritual experiences while downplaying

Scriptural focus. Others have taken issue with some of Bohi's statements that seem to indicate

questionable doctrine, including an apparently passive endorsement of prominent people in more

controversial charismatic movements. Still others express great concern that, at a time when the

Nazarene denomination is undergoing an internal struggle between liberal and conservative factions,

Dan Bohi's presence and teaching only serves to add another element of uncertainty and confusion to

the church, making it even more difficult for the church as a whole to remain on the correct path.

Of course, perception on either side can be a purely subjective matter. What is perceived by

one person to be good can be understood by somebody else to be bad, as an individual's perception

by itself is one possible point of view and nothing more. The more crucial question that needs to be

asked and answered concerning Dan Bohi is this: Is the totality of Dan Bohi's ministry, both in

doctrine and in practice, in alignment with the Word of God?

Rightly dividing the words...

As mentioned above, it is not the opinion of one person or another on either side of the

debate that matters in this discussion. What is important is that the things asserted by Dan Bohi in his

sermons be held under scrutiny to the words of Holy Scripture. In order to do that, it is necessary to

take what Mr. Bohi himself has stated while preaching from the platform and hold it next to the

doctrines and truths asserted in the Bible. Like the Bereans in the book of Acts, Christians ought not

to simply accept every single word coming from the mouth of a speaker as the truth, but have a duty

to scrutinize what is said by comparing it with Scripture (I John 4:1).

Before delving into this section, a word of reminder needs to be spoken here: When a

minister speaks from the pulpit, the things he says become a matter of public record, and he is

responsible for those words. He should therefore expect to be held accountable for the things said

publicly to his congregation (to say nothing of his accountability to God), as this is a matter of

examining words spoken in a public gathering, and not extracted through illegal surveillance of a

closed-door meeting. Any person taking upon themselves the right to make a public statement by

default also takes upon themselves the responsibility to answer for that statement, particularly if he is

proven to be wrong about any assertion said before the public, and a pastor is certainly no exception

to this rule. When a pastor's statement is found to be inaccurate, whether by mistake or by deliberate

deception, that pastor has no right to be offended should his statement be scrutinized by somebody

else. Furthermore, contrary to the common objection raised that such examinations are "witch hunts"

or "heresy hunts" by some Christian leaders, holding a minister to such accountability is a good

thing, something expected of us by God, and is a healthy exercise for the church to engage in, so as

to help keep false teaching at bay.

Therefore, in exploring the things said by Dan Bohi, it needs to be remembered that the

following are words that he has indeed said in public, and are available for others to hear. These

were not statements taken from secretive gatherings, nor are they taken out of context from their

messages.

The "Logos/Rhema" Teaching

In late February of 2011, Dan Bohi was asked to speak at the M11 conference, a gathering

sponsored by the Church of the Nazarene which took place in Lousiville, Kentucky. In the first ten

minutes of his talk, Bohi makes reference to his belief that better preaching is not going to be the

answer for the church, implying that what is needed is "to flow in the spirit."10 Later, during the same

message, he references the Biblical account of Jesus' time of temptation in the wilderness, making the

following statement concerning the actual words of Christ, and specifically with regard to the third

time He speaks to Satan: "The third time He doesn't state 'It is written;' He states 'It says.'" After this

remark, Bohi goes on to say the following:

I think when the written word and the Spirit come together, it no longer remains logos, it

becomes rhema. It becomes revelation. And see, without revelation we perish.11

The words logos and rhema are the words ascribed to Jesus' verbal response to Satan during

the three times Jesus was tempted. In the Biblical account, the first two instances in which Jesus

replies to Satan involve the use of the Greek word logos, which translate into the English for "word"

in the sense of something written down, hence the translation "It is written" for the beginning of

Christ's rebukes against the devil. However, in the third response, a different Greek word is used: not

logos but rhema, which in its strictest form translates to "word" in the sense of something said,

implying a spoken rather than written word, even though most English translations with regard to

this passage (such as the King James Version) render it as "It is written" rather than "It is said" for the

purpose of continuity.

What Dan Bohi is doing with this passage is making an implication that there is a significant

difference of spiritual proportion in Jesus' switching from logos to rhema. The meaning suggested by

his rhetoric is that logos is somehow an incomplete usage of the Word of God, and that the Holy

Spirit must be combined with the written word in order for the Word to become effective (thus

producing rhema). In the thinking of Bohi, the written Word alone is insufficient, but must have a

sort of infusion of the Spirit in order for anything transformational to occur in the life of a Christian.

As such, Bohi extracts from this passage a significant difference in meaning between logos and

rhema, and builds a doctrinal point upon this perceived difference, as seen in the quote above.

But is there such a difference in the two words? Is the passage referring to Christ's temptation

all about the superiority of rhema over logos? While there is little disagreement with regard to the

necessity of the Holy Spirit as an active Agent in tandem with the Scriptures, is there any indication

from the Bible that the term rhema truly implies some sort of spiritual superiority over and above the

usage of logos?

A good number of evangelical Christians with a solid background in the Greek language

would take serious issue with Dan Bohi's doctrinal assertion that logos and rhema possess any

significant difference in the sense he maintains. Lars Loever, a missionary to India, contends that the

two words, contrary to Dan Bohi's claim, are not on different spiritual levels from each other, but

instead are found to be interchangeable in many passages of Scripture:

First example: the term “word of God” as it is compared to a sword, is described both with rhema and

with logos. In Ephesians 6:17 “rhema” is used: “And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the

Spirit, which is the word (RHEMA) of God.”

But in Hebrews 4:12 “logos” is used: “For the Word (LOGOS) of God is living and powerful, and

sharper than any two-edged sword , piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and

marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”

If we were to rephrase these two verses according to the rhema/logos doctrine, it would be described

something like this: “Using the Word that God speaks especially to you (rhema) become a sword of

the Spirit. Using the Written word of God (logos) will discern your thoughts and intents of the heart.”

It doesn’t make much sense, does it? If it really was such a difference between logos and rhema as the

doctrine claims, only the word ”rhema” should be consistently used in BOTH verses, since both times

the word of God is compared to the “sword."12

Mr. Loever continues on, documenting the uses of the forms of logos and rhema with regard

to Paul's preaching of the Word (Acts 13:42-44) and in reference to Peter's usage of both terms in a

manner suggesting equivalence of meaning (I Peter 1:23-25).13 Clearly, such interchanging of the

Greek terms in the Bible does not suggest any type of superiority of the rhema over and above the

logos.

Damon Whitsell, who runs the group blog "The Word on the Word of Faith" has this to say

concerning the logos/rhema discussion: "In the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament) and in the Greek

New Testament rhema and logos are used interchangeably. They are used synonymously and there is

no difference between logos and rhema at all."14

The website biblestudying.net also contains an article which documents the usage of these

words in Scripture. Using three parallel passages concerning Jesus' prediction of Peter's denial of Him

on the night of His arrest (Matthew 26:75, Mark 14:72, and Luke 22:61), the article goes states that:

The Matthew and Mark accounts refer to Jesus' word that Peter would deny him three times before the

rooster crowed using the Greek word "rhema" for Jesus' "word." The Luke account, however, refers to

Jesus' "word" that Peter would deny him three times before the rooster crowed using the Greek word

"logos" for Jesus' "word." By comparing these 3 accounts side by side we can see that both "rhema"

and "logos" can refer to a prophetic spoken word.15

That the two words are used in Scripture without any apparent preference for one over the

other in any significant way is directly at odds with Bohi's claim that the use of rhema is somehow

inherently superior to the use of logos. This is even more alarming when looking at John 1:1, where

Jesus is referred to as the Word (logos). Surely one would think that rhema would be preferred here

since the text refers to God Incarnate and not simply written words on a page!

If there were nothing more to this matter, one could simply rebuke Dan Bohi for a careless

mishandling of the Greek and move on. After all, while mishandling Greek is something that should

not be overlooked, it is not as serious a charge as a complete denial of a core Christian doctrine such

as Original Sin or the penal substitution atonement.

Unfortunately, this is not the end of the matter, nor can this be dismissed as a minor error to

be ignored. The false logos/rhema comparison which Dan Bohi has propagated did not originate

with him. On the contrary, this error has its roots in an evangelical movement which has taken the

Scriptures and turned them into a sort of "wax nose" for applying unscriptural doctrine from the

pulpit.

The logos/rhema comparison can be traced back to the Word of Faith movement, a

subdivision of the Pentecostal/charismatic movement. Claiming to continue the work started at the

Azusa Street Revival, and spearheaded by leaders such as William Branham, Oral Roberts, Kenneth

Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Aimee Semple McPherson, Benny Hinn, and others, the Word of Faith

movement places a strong emphasis on signs and wonders.16 As with the rest of Pentecostalism/

charismaticism, the Word of Faith movement believes in regular manifestations of the Holy Spirit

regarding healings, personal words and revelations given directly from God, the use of speaking in

tongues in both the personal and corporate prayer times, and even such extreme forms of claimed

manifestations such as hysterical "laughing in the Spirit" (such as with Rodney Howard-Browne and

the Toronto Blessing movement). Core to the beliefs of the Word of Faith movement is the tenant

that one can receive anything desired from God provided that one exercise enough faith to receive it,

thus giving it the nickname of "Prosperity Teaching" or "Name-it-and-claim-it" theology. Failure to

obtain what one has asked for (such as divine healing from disease or receiving financial funds) is

often attributed to a lack of faith on the part of the hopeful believer or a failure to positively and

verbally confess aloud that which one claims in the name of Jesus for his own (rhema), rather than

considering the possibility that it is God's will for the request to be answered in a way different than

expected.

The principle of logos/rhema differentiation runs rampant throughout the Word of Faith

camp, and could be considered one of the foundational teachings of the movement. John

MacArthur, pastor at Grace Community Church in California, expounds upon the use of logos and

rhema in the Word of Faith movement by referencing the late Charles Farah, once a professor of

theological and historical studies at Oral Roberts University, and a major proponent of this teaching

as early as the 1970's:

Noting that there are two Greek words translated "word" he [Farah] devised the theory that logos is the

objective, historic Word and rhema is the personal, subjective Word. The problem with that idea is

that neither the Greek meaning nor the New Testament usage make any such distinction. The logos,

said Farah, becomes rhema when it speaks to you. The logos is forensic while the rhema is

experiential. Farah wrote, "The logos doesn't always become the rhema, God's Word to you." In other

words, the logos becomes rhema when it speaks to you. The historic, objective logos in Farah's

system, has no transforming impact until it becomes rhema-your own personal word from God.17

Even in this brief summary, one can see the similarities between Farah's doctrine and the

teaching given by Dan Bohi at the M11 conference in which he downplayed the necessity of

preaching while extolling rhema over and above logos.

But MacArthur does not stop there with his analysis. He goes on to issue a stern warning

concerning this doctrine:

That [referring to Farah's logos/rhema doctrine] sounds dangerously close to what neoorthodox

theologians have been saying for years: that the Bible becomes God's Word only when it speaks to

you. But God's Word is God's Word whether someone experiences its power or not. The Bible doesn't

depend on the experience of its readers to become the inspired word of God.18

In other words, according to MacArthur, those espousing the logos/rhema doctrine are at the

very least flirting with the same sort of thinking that ultimately undermines the objective authority of

the Bible itself.

At the very least, this information about the logos/rhema doctrine concerning what it is and

the persons and movements with which it is associated should make one wonder why Dan Bohi

would use this same sort of rhetoric in his message. As has been shown, there is neither Scriptural nor

rational ground for attributing such a radical difference in meaning to the two words, and this alone

raises questions concerning Dan Bohi's competence with regard to his knowledge of the original

Greek languages. And even if Bohi does not mean to imply the same things as those in the more

radical wing of Christianity, why would he chance such a wrong impression by proceeding with his

chosen phrasing, a phrasing utilized by individuals associated with a far more radical understanding

of the Bible, one that is radically different from traditional Nazarene doctrine?

Resurrections from the dead

I prayed for a man. My brother and I were in revival in Coffeeville, Kansas... and we prayed for a man

who was dead... and he came back to life. I prayed for a man when I did a revival at the Roy Clark

Theatre in Branson... and he came back to life. I prayed for a man in Olathe, Kansas at a Tuesday night

revival service at 9:04 pm... and he came back to life. I haven’t raised 600, like Heidi and Rolland.. but

I’ve done three because I’m a Nazarene and a Nazarene always has three points.

We prayed three times in our services for people that had been raised from the dead. I don’t feel

comfortable about that, ‘cause I’m a Nazarene. And I don’t like to disrupt people and I probably

wouldn’t pray for them if I knew they were dead but these people were dead and they came back alive.19

The two paragraphs above are direct quotations from Dan Bohi given during his message

"Walking in the Spirit Part 1." In both of these quoted portions, Bohi gives an apparent testimony to

something that can only be considered supernaturally miraculous: the resurrection of people from

the dead through prayer. According to Dan's own testimony, he has brought back three people from

the dead while giving a nod of acknowledgement toward a couple by the name of Heidi and Rolland

who have "raised 600" (These two people referenced by Bohi will be addressed later). Dan himself

admits that he is uncomfortable with it, although this does not seem to deter him from engaging in

the practice, which he believes has successfully raised people from the dead.

Obviously this is not a point which can be treated in a cavalier manner. To profess that

people have been raised from the dead though ministry is no small detail; on the contrary, it is

essentially claiming for oneself the same sort of miraculous workings that took place in the first

century during the ministry of Jesus Christ and the apostles. Without any question, that a minster of

God can claim resurrections occurring in their ministry would be at the very least a strong persuasion

in favor of the legitimacy of signs and wonders, not to mention the fact that such miracles,

accompanied by verified documentation, would be a strong factor in turning people to believe the

gospel.

But the converse point is just as true, and just as significant: if a minister's claims to have

raised people from the dead turn out to be false, that minister is engaged in gross and heinous sin.

Such a man ought to step down immediately from his position as a minister and repent before God

and the church of bearing false witness in the name of Jesus Christ.

Before continuing, it needs to be established that the first and obvious impression given by

Mr. Bohi in the above quotes is that he is speaking of literal, bodily resurrections from the dead.

More elaboration will come concerning this, but for now it needs to be made clear that nothing in

those paragraphs nor in the remainder of the message suggests that Bohi is speaking spiritually or

metaphorically about resurrecting people from the dead, and it is highly encouraged that the reader

check the source for the quotes above and hear the words in their entire context to verify this.

So how should this be dealt with? How should Bohi's claims that at least three dead people

have been brought back to life as a result of his prayers be treated? Is he speaking the truth

concerning these resurrections, or is he sensationalizing his ministry for his own purposes? Before

coming to this conclusion, two important matters must be brought to light.

First, no verifiable documentation can be found to confirm his claims of three literal

resurrections. There has been no known verification of these resurrections through the presentation

of medical reports which would provide documentation for date, time, and cause of death, which

would in turn verify Bohi's claims of resurrection. Nothing about such resurrections or correlating

documentation can be found on Dan Bohi's website, which is rather surprising considering that the

magnificence of such evidence presented publicly would confirm the occurrence of the miracles and

dispel any doubts.

To add to the puzzlement, attempts have been made to contact Bohi's ministry requesting

more information concerning these resurrections. Bohi's ministry, for whatever reason, has not

responded to these requests. At the very least, this lack of verifiable evidence concerning the claims

of resurrection does not cast Bohi's assertions in a positive light.20

Second, history does not side with Dan Bohi concerning the resurrection of dead people in

the post-apostolic church era. There are no verifiable reports of the raising of people from the dead

in any sort of legitimate ministry. On the contrary, the most notable name associated with any sort of

resurrections is that of self-proclaimed healer and evangelist Smith Wigglesworth (1859-1947), who

also claimed to bring people back from the dead. This, however, is a most unfortunate association, as

not one of Wigglesworth's claims regarding resurrections is accompanied by any sort of official

evidence giving credence to his alleged resurrections.21

As such, this puts Dan Bohi in poor company with regard to his credibility concerning the

dead returning to life. The two factors listed above combine to raise serious doubts concerning the

legitimacy of the claims of resurrection. That Dan Bohi, 1.) has not produced any sort of verifiable

facts or documentation concerning his claimed resurrections and, 2.) is not supported by historical

evidence of resurrections happening in the church (or at least none verified by credible evidence) is

troubling, and does nothing to support his assertions stated above. As referenced earlier: this is not a

light matter to be dismissed out of hand. Any sort of false assertion made from the pulpit is sinful,

but far more heinous in nature is making unsubstantiated claims of the miraculous sort. For Dan Bohi

to say that he has resurrected three people from the dead through prayer yet provide no reliable

sources of confirmation to verify his declarations is irresponsible proclamation at the very least, and

duplicitous rhetoric at very worst.

In response to this, some Nazarenes have defended Bohi's statements as referring to people

who are spiritually dead rather than physically dead. They believe that Dan is not referring to literal

resurrection in these statements, but instead is using a figurative depiction of death to describe the

spiritual regeneration of people.22 However, the response of attributing a non-literal meaning to

Bohi's words falls short of its intent for the following reasons:

1.) By Dan Bohi's own admission in relation to his prayer for dead people, he states that he

didn't "feel comfortable with that," and that he "probably wouldn't pray for them if I knew they were

dead." If by his words he is referring to spiritually unregenerate people who are dead in their

trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2), why would such a thing be uncomfortable for him to do? What

would be so troublesome for a Christian (and a Christian evangelist at that!) concerning prayer for

spiritually dead people? Christians pray all the time for unbelieving friends and relatives, asking God

to regenerate hearts and open eyes toward the gospel. Why would Dan Bohi have a reluctance to

engage in an activity in which Christians from many different denominations (including the

Nazarene denomination) participate on a regular basis?

2.) In his quote, Bohi mentions that he has not raised six hundred like "Heidi and Rolland."

This is a reference to Heidi and Rolland Baker, a missionary couple in Africa who have claimed to

literally—not spiritually, but literally—raised the dead during their mission work. Heidi and Rolland

Baker are affiliated with the New Apostolic Reformation,23 as well as the Toronto Blessing movement,

a charismatic movement spearheaded by John Arnott (head pastor of the Toronto Airport Vineyard

Church) and associated with controversial speakers such as Rodney Howard-Browne, propagator of

the unscriptural "laughing revival."24 If Dan Bohi is speaking about spiritual rather than physical

resurrection, why would he bring up the names of two people prominently known for their

proclamations of physically raising the dead in their ministry? If Bohi wanted to compare "spiritual

resurrections" with anybody, wouldn't it be more proper to refer to John Wesley? Or George

Whitefield? Or Billy Graham? Why reach for an obscure reference to people known for a

controversial claim to literal resurrections when Bohi's aim is to give testimony to spiritual ones?

3.) Frankly, the context of the above statements does not even suggest that Dan Bohi might

be referring to anything other than actual, physical resurrection of dead people. Putting aside for a

moment the lack of language suggesting anything other than real resurrection from the dead, the fact

that Bohi claimed to have raised "only three" if he were talking about spiritual resurrections would

imply that only three people have been spiritually regenerated during his evangelistic ministry. In

light of testimonies given from Nazarenes claiming to be changed for the better during Bohi's

ministry (which surely must include spiritual regeneration), does that even make sense?

In light of these factors used to examine Dan Bohi's words, the plain point made is

inescapable: regardless of how some wish to spin or reinterpret the quotes given above, Dan Bohi

gives the very clear impression that he has literally raised people from the dead. That he does so

without putting forth any sort of verifiable documentation to justify his claims, and compares his

work with that of a missionary couple affiliated with a controversial charismatic movement, sends up

a red flag suggesting either careless wording concerning his assertions, duplicitous speech for the

sake of sensationalism, or an outright propagation of a charismatic tenet unsupported by the facts.

Personal Words from God

Even when giving his messages only superficial attention, it is obvious to any listener that

Dan Bohi emphasizes an immediacy of miraculous divine intervention in his messages. In fact, it

does not stretch the emphasis too far to state that, at the core of many of his messages, Bohi has a

strong desire for the Nazarene church to embrace a full-fledged continuationist understanding of

Christianity much like that of the charismatic and Pentecostal circles of evangelicalism, with a focus

upon an infilling of the Holy Spirit. After listening to some of his sermons, one might begin to

wonder whether or not Bohi has established the pursuit of signs and wonders as the foundational

doctrine upon which he builds all of his other teachings.

One of the continuationist tenets put forth by Bohi is the seeking of personal words from

God, the idea that God is supposed to speak to believers directly; not only through His Word, but

also through a real voice either "to the heart" or sometimes in a voice as audible as that of one person

directly speaking to another. Around the first eight and a half minutes into his sermon "Walking in

the Spirit Part 1," he claims that God healed him of his diabetes by telling him to drink water.25 In his

message at the M11 conference, Bohi admits to asking for a direct word from God, Who responded

by telling him to get a Bible.26 Later in the same message, he claimed that God told him directly

through the Holy Spirit to preach the gospel "til you die."27 He then goes on to say this:

I was doing this revival in Springfield and I was preaching on Elijah.. and about three-fourths of the

way through the Lord interrupted me and said, "Tell someone over here they're being healed." And,

you see, that's not comfortable for a guy who's been raised Nazarene, because that's what they do in the

Spirit church.... And so when the Lord tells me, "Hey, I want you to say someone over here's being

healed, I'm a little nervous and I'm thinking maybe He's confused. And I'm trying to tell him, "Hey

God, you got the wrong guy. My name is Danny Bohi, not Benny."28

That Dan Bohi believes he hears directly from God in personal words is not in question. Nor

it is overreaching to suggest, based upon the supernatural emphasis in his messages, that he would

like to see more of these "Personal Words from God" occur in the Nazarene church in general. His

overall thrust for signs and wonders to occupy a prevalent place in the present day Nazarene

congregations seems to be underscored by his claims of hearing direct revelation from God.

However, the encouragement of the practice of seeking after such direct communication with

the Holy Spirit runs at odds with the whole of Scripture. There is, in fact, no passage in the Bible,

either in the Old or New Testament, which remotely suggests that Christians are to be seeking after

such Personal Words from God. To the contrary, when we read the Bible, we see a continual

reference back to the established words of Scripture rather than the pursuit of supernatural voices

(John 5:39, I Timothy 3:16-17, Hebrews 4:12). When Jesus was tempted by Satan, his response was

the written Word (Matthew 4:4, 7, 10). The apostle Paul warned the church of the Galatians against

compromising the word of the gospel, going so far as to state that any false gospel should be rejected

even if it were presented by an angelic being (Galatians 1:8). Furthermore, when Paul gave Timothy

instructions regarding his ministry, he said nothing about looking for Personal Words from God, but

rather turned his focus back to the written Word (II Timothy 2:15). The apostle John warns his

readers to not believe every spirit, but to test the spirits to see whether or not they are from God:

something that is obviously done by knowing and applying Scriptural doctrine (I John 4:1).

In fact, pursuing after direct divine revelations is a dangerous road for the Christian to

follow. Consider the words of the Welsh preacher Martin Lloyd-Jones on the matter:

Let us imagine I follow the mystic way. I begin to have experiences; I think God is speaking to me;

how do I know it is God who is speaking to me? How can I know I am not speaking to man; how can I

be sure that I am not the victim of hallucinations, since this has happened to many of the mystics? If I

believe in mysticism as such without the Bible, how do I know I am not being deluded by Satan as an

angel of light in order to keep me from the true and living God? I have no standard... The evangelical

doctrine tells me not to look into myself but to look into the Word of God; not to examine my self,

but to look at the revelation that has been given to me. It tells me that God can only be known in His

own way, the way which has been revealed in the Scriptures themselves.29

Dr. Lloyd-Jones points out an obvious truth that many in the continuationist movement

either do not stop to consider or do not care to consider: the very real possibility that these "direct

words from God" in fact may be delusional imaginations; or worse yet, influence from the devil.

Unlike the written Word, which has an objective standard and reference point for the believer to

return to and anchor himself, the claims of divine revelations are rooted in the subjective and the

experiential, and have as a basis in truth only the pragmatic outcome regarding what is said. For

example, if a man receives a divine message that the next day his boss will give him a thousand

dollar raise, and that raise comes to pass, he may conclude that his message came directly from God.

But in truth there is no way of knowing that for sure, as a demon could have given him this same

message just as easily. That the "revelation" turned out to be true does not necessarily mean that the

source of the divine revelation was God.

Throughout history, a great many movements that were questionable at best and heretical at

worst have been started by people claiming to receive Personal Words from God and other such

direct divine revelations. Muhammed, the founder of Islam, claimed to have direct revelation from

the angel Gabriel concerning the truth of Allah's religion. In the thirteenth century, a twelve-year-old

boy by the name of Stephen of Cloyes claimed to have a direct message from Jesus that he was to

take a "Children's Crusade" to Israel for the purpose of converting the Muslims: a crusade that was

ultimately deemed a failure.30 Joseph Smith, the founder of the heretical Mormon church, claimed

visitation not only from an angel named Moroni, but also directly from Jesus Christ and God the

Father, informing him that all of the contemporary Christian denominations "had turned aside from

the gospel," and it is through these revelations as well that Smith began teaching that God the Father

was a being of physical nature rather than spiritual.31 Ellen G. White, founder of the Seventh Day

Adventist group (which demands of its members an Old Testament adherence to Saturday and

emphasizes a nearly legalistic attitude concerning vegetarianism), claimed to receive visions from

God.32 William Seymour, the preacher responsible for the Azusa Street revival, believed that the

Holy Spirit had revealed to him that the Church would be raptured by the date 1977.33 In more

recent history, John Hinkle, a man associated with the charismatic movement, proclaimed that on

June 9th, 1994 the Lord would "rip the evil out of this world," a prophecy that, to this date, has had

no verification of fulfillment.34

At the very least, such accounts should give others such as Dan Bohi concern as to what they

think they may be hearing (assuming they are telling the truth when they say so) when they believe

God is giving them direct revelation. That so many others in history have espoused heretical

doctrines and sinful practices because "God told them" ought to give pause to anybody who believes

they have received a personal Word from God.35 Pastor Bob DeWaay of CIC Ministries has this to

say about direct revelations:

It is abusive to make (Personal Words from God) to be special revelations of God’s will either to an

individual or to a church. These “words” never have the quality of being “certainly from God.” When

we take them to be that when they are not, then we have become false prophets to our own selves or to

the church.36

John MacArthur agrees with this assessment as well:

The only trustworthy source of divine truth, guidance for your own spiritual growth, and instruction

for the church is the written Word of God. No emotional urging or mystical experience can trump the

concrete, fundamental truth God has given us in Scripture. Does God still speak? Yes, but not in an

audible voice. He speaks through the pages of Scripture.37

Signs and Wonders?

As mentioned earlier, with regard to the actual matter of signs and wonders themselves, Dan

Bohi puts them front and center in his ministry. His messages are filled with testimonies of those who

claim to have received divine healing through his prayers and laying on of hands, and he anxiously

believes that such miraculous events are still available for the church at large and are to be exercised

for the purpose of making an evangelical impact upon the world.38 So zealous and fanatical is Dan

Bohi for this manifestation of gifts that one has to wonder why he has not openly referred to himself

as a charismatic, since his general message concerning the gifts of the Spirit contains very little that

differs from charismatics such as Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, or any other prominent

charismatic preacher when speaking on the same subject .

But as with the Personal Words from God, is this something that the church should be

actively pursuing? Is the seeking of signs and wonders as a regular part of a believer's life supported

by Scripture? Are we to embrace the doctrine of any speaker solely on the basis of their claims that

miracles have happened during their ministry?

Before we answer that, there is a misconception of Scripture that must be settled. When one

listens to Dan Bohi and others advocating the continuationist position, the impression is sometimes

given that each and every page of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation is full of accounts involving

divine miracles. But this is far from the truth. The fact of the matter is that, when the entire time span

of thousands of years of Biblical history from Creation to the closing of the canon in Revelation is

taken into account, miracles are truly few and far between. With occasional exceptions found here

and there, the majority of Biblical miracles can be found in only three places: 1.) the time of Moses

and the exodus, 2.) the time of Elijah and Elisha, and 3.) the time of Jesus and the apostles. The fact

of the matter is that the Bible does not record direct, miraculous intervention by God as often as is

perceived by those seeking signs and wonders.

And when the Bible does address signs and wonders, it does not exalt them to the extent that

many do in the modern charismatic movement. On the contrary, the Bible always places miracles on

a lower level of importance than the written Word of God and the sound doctrine it contains. For

example, in Deuteronomy 13:1-4, Moses warns of the danger of heeding the voice of a false prophet

who would tempt the Israelites to serve other gods. But note the first part of this passage regarding

what it says about signs and wonders:

If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous

sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us

follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," yo must not listen to the

words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love

him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the LORD your God you must follow. (Deut

13:1-4, NIV)

Do not miss the significance of that italicized phrase. This passage is quite clear concerning

the superiority of Scriptural doctrine (in this case, the forbidding of idolatry) over the working of

any sort of miraculous event. The Israelites were not to violate any of God's commands, even if the

false prophet propagating the violation performed a sign or wonder to confirm his unscriptural view.

The working of miracles was never to be used as the primary test of truth for the people of God.

Doctrine was always to be placed above signs and wonders in importance. This needs to be

remembered in light of the fact that cultic movements such as the Mormons and the Christian Science

movement (both of whom deny core Christian doctrines) affirm what they believe to be the real

working of miracles in their congregations.39

Related to this point is that a minister's gift of performing signs and wonders did not make

that minister infallible. In Galatians 2:11-16, Paul writes to the church about an incident occurring

between him and Peter, during which he had to publicly rebuke his fellow apostle for falling prey to

the influence of the Judaizers, a group attempting to place Christians under the law as a condition for

salvation. This is the same Peter who brought Tabitha back to life (Acts 9:40-43), who received a

divine vision from God three times concerning the clean and the unclean (Acts 10:9-16), and from

whom people hoped to receive a miracle from even the passing over of his shadow (Acts 5:15). This

same Peter had to be rebuked by Paul for giving in to the pressure of a false group. The lesson from

this for us is clear: even if a minister's claims concerning signs and wonders are true, it does not

necessarily follow that every word or action of that minister is to be received without question or

examination. The miracles are not to be exalted in such a way as to overshadow any incorrect

doctrine uttered from the pulpit.

Furthermore, the impression by Dan Bohi often given concerning these gifts is that the

church is unable to effectively function without them. Frankly, this is a foolish thing to say since it is

the gospel, and not miracles, that brings people to saving faith in Jesus Christ. God is not so helpless

that He cannot change hearts and lives without the sensational accompaniment of signs and wonders

in ministry; to imply otherwise is to rob the Holy Spirit of His efficacious power in conversion. In

addition, a great many men of God through church history have been used by God to bring

salvation to multitudes without the benefit of miracles, such as Martin Luther, John Calvin, Jonathan

Edwards, George Whitefield, and Bohi's own John Wesley (who, as far as is known, did not perform

any such signs and wonders as Bohi advocates, yet successfully brought the gospel to many hearts

and saw many conversions in his time preaching in England).40 Neither God nor His people are so

dependent upon the immediate displays of the visibly supernatural that the gospel would be fruitless.

On the contrary, the miracle of salvation is that it is the Holy Spirit who changes the heart,

transforming it not by virtue of any healing or other miracle on the outside, but by the regeneration

of one's very heart and soul on the inside.

Finally, there is a warning in Scripture that should be considered by all Christians, but

especially by those leaning toward the charismatic gifts. In Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus gives a grim

reminder to us that not everybody calling Him "Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven. He goes on

to give the defense offered by many of those who will not see eternal life ("Did we not prophesy in

your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?"). Note the reason

given by those expelled from the kingdom for their appeal to entrance in these verses: their works,

and in particular their miraculous works. They counter against Christ's command to depart from him

by pointing to their works as the reason for entrance, rather than running to the cross and trusting in

the finished work of Jesus Christ alone for their eternal life. This passage serves to remind all

Christians that a person's works, even works that appear to be on the level of miraculous, are not the

basis for entrance into eternal life.

As a fitting conclusion to this passage, the Nazarene Church would be wise to heed the words

spoken by Presbyterian Pastor Harold Polk which were said in passing with regard to chapter seven

of Matthew:

Just because a man wears the collar, or bears the title of Christian clergy, whether in this church or

any other, and just because a person claims to be acting in the name, or to be led by the spirit of

Jesus Christ; this does not alone entitle that person to the respect, and to the obedience, of

believing people.41

Conclusion

So with all of this information, what is to be concluded concerning Dan Bohi? How should

his ministry, with its exaltation of the miraculous above the mundane, be viewed? How should the

things he has spoken from the pulpit concerning both teaching and testimony be treated and

evaluated? After examining all of the evidence, considering what Dan Bohi has said in light of

teachings and doctrines espoused in the charismatic community, and after examining prominent

points made in his messages via words on those same topics from respected authorities in the

evangelical world, and finally after subjecting his statements to the scrutiny of the Scriptures, one of

two conclusions have been reached from which a final verdict must be established. And regardless of

the conclusion taken, neither option is good; whether a man misleads by ignorance or misleads by

deceit, it does not change the fact that he still misleads.42

The first conclusion is the most gracious and least concerning position which can be reached

without ascribing a duplicitous motive: that Dan Bohi is misled in significant ways. His statements

with regard to the logos/rhema discussion denote ignorance in relation to the understanding and

usage of biblical Greek, which has in turn caused him to reach an unscriptural position concerning

the words. His testimony concerning raising people from the dead is not backed by verifiable

evidence, which at best is a terrible oversight on the part of his ministry for failing to produce any

such documentation; and if by his words regarding resurrections he means the regeneration of

spiritually dead people, his choice of wording for the initial topic is poor and ought to be publicly

retracted. His emphasis on signs, wonders, and personal words from God come across as an

exaltation of what he believes to be the Holy Spirit over and above the written Word, thus drawing

people towards spiritual experiences rather than directing them to the concrete foundation of the

Scriptures. And even if this is the correct conclusion pertaining to Mr. Bohi, which grants him the

benefit of the doubt by ascribing neglect and ignorance to his assertions, it still requires Nazarene

leadership to approach him, to point out to him the error of his ways, and to lead him back into a

more surefooted and biblically grounded manner of ministry.

However, the other possible conclusion to reach based upon the evidence is far more

troubling: that Dan Bohi is intentionally attempting to bring the Nazarene denomination into the

sphere of the charismatic movement. The possibility here is that Dan Bohi knows full well what he is

promoting, and the fact that he has referenced the charismatic church more than once in his

messages, including controversial people such as Heidi and Rolland Baker, suggests that this second

position is a very real possibility. Of equal plainness and apprehension is that much of his talk

smacks of the rhetoric used by extreme charismatic preachers, notably those in the Word of Faith

movement such as the late Oral Roberts and Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, and Benny Hinn;

men who have espoused theology that at the very least flirts with heresy and turns the gospel into a

theology that demands signs and wonders done for the service of the believer, making God in effect

a cosmic bellhop bound to the whim of His people. Even if Dan Bohi does not subscribe to the most

extreme excesses of the charismatic movement, his teaching is without a doubt a step in that

direction, and at times he seems more than willing to push the Nazarene church into the camp of

charismaticism, and doing so at the expense of falling prey to the fringe elements of that movement.

When charismaticism reared its head in Azusa Street, Phineas Bresee rightly wanted to

preserve the Church of the Nazarene, and kept his distance from the movement. Now, Dan Bohi with

his charismatic theology is attempting to reverse the course established by Bresee, trying to bring

"strange fire" into the congregation. The Church of the Nazarene needs to remember its roots, to

hold fast to the written Word of God in steadfast faith without becoming distracted by teachers such

as Dan Bohi who sacrifice what God has put forth in the Bible for perceived miracles and a faith

dependent upon experience rather than upon the promises and truths God has given in His Word. In

short, the Church of the Nazarene needs to walk by faith, and not by sight.

Endnotes

1 "Phineas Bresee" retrieved March 30th, 2013 from http://www.azusastreet.org/AzusaStreetBresee.htm

2 Ibid

3 Ibid

4 For an in-depth treatment of the Azusa Street Revival, go to http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2004/2004-08-24a.htm and http://

letusreason.org/Pent57.htm

5 A history of many of the Pentecostal/Charismatic leaders can be found at "The Strange History of Pentecostalism" (http://

www.deceptioninthechurch.com/strange1.htm)

6 Ibid

7 Dan Bohi Bio info retrieved March 30th, 2013from http://godfreynazarene.org/PDF/Microsoft%20Word%20-%20Dan'sMinistryBio2.pdf

8 Ibid

9 Two Nazarenes who have been at the forefront of concern with regard to Dan Bohi are Manny Silva (http://

reformednazarene.wordpress.com/) and Tim Wirth (http://simplyagape.blogspot.com/), both of whom have posted information concerning Mr.

Bohi on their respective websites.

10 "M11 Plenary Service-Dan Bohi" retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from http://vimeo.com/20791878

11 Ibid

12 Loever, Lars, "Too much Greek? a challenge to the rhema/logos doctrine" Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from

http://figministries.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/too-much-greek-a-challenge-to-the-rhemalogos-doctrine/

13 Ibid

14 "Rhema and Logos: There is No Difference!!!" Retrieved March 31st, 2013 from http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2010/04/16/

rhema-and-logos-there-is-no-difference/

15 "The 'Rhema' and 'Logos' Word (Part 2)" Retrieved March 31st, 2013 from http://www.biblestudying.net/charismatic37.html

16 For more detailed information concerning leaders of the Word of Faith movement, please see the well-written articles found on the website

of Personal Freedom Outreach at http://pfo.org/res2a.htm

17 MacArthur, John, Charismatic Chaos,Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House, pp45-46.

18 Ibid., p 46

19 Bohi, Dan, "Walking in the Spirit Part 1," Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from http://www.graceandpeacemagazine.org/louisville-m11/180-

walking-in-the-spirit-part-one

20 This Author is among those who has attempted to contact Dan Bohi's ministry. Twice, private messages were sent to Bohi's Facebook

ministry page requesting information concerning these resurrections. To this date, there has been no response of any type, not even an

acknowledgement that the sent request was received.

21 For more detail concerning Smith Wigglesworth and his alleged healing ministry, go to http://taministries.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/

Smith-Wigglesworth-The-Facts-v3.5.pdf

22 A Nazarene named Mark who runs a blog entitled Holiness Unto the Lord is among those attempting to defend Dan Bohi for this response:

"There was talk in the first meeting about our ability to raise people from the dead. That brought up a large red flag for my wife and I. We

took notes and went home and prayed that God would reveal what Dan Bohi meant by this and was he literally talking about raising someone’s

physical body from the dead. The Patricia King/Joshua Mills group is actually trying to do this, going to funeral homes asking people to let them

‘practice.’ The very next day, the prayer we prayed was answered as Dan explained that, “people are dead in their sin, their trespasses and

are in need of us ‘resurrecting’ them by sharing the good news of Jesus Christ.” ("What is the deal with Dan?" Retrieved April 2nd from http://

holinessuntothelord.wordpress.com/2012/06/17/what-is-the-deal-with-dan/).

However well-intentioned he may be in his defense of Dan Bohi, Mark misses the essence of Bohi's message. Nowhere in the quoted section

from "Walking in the Spirit Part 1" does Bohi imply that his talk of resurrecting people from the dead is to be understood in any sense other than

a literal sense. Unfortunately, in his haste to clear Dan Bohi's name, Mark ignores this stark fact.

23 See "Christianity Today Should Retract or Correct Cover Article on New Apostolic Leader Heidi Baker," Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2012/5/7/6228/64684

24 Hannegraaf, Hank, "The Counterfeit Revival," Retrieved April 1st from http://www.equip.org/articles/the-counterfeit-revival/ Also

recommended is John MacArthur's "The Modern Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” (http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/90-415/the-modernblasphemy-

of-the-holy-spirit)

25 Bohi, "Walking in the Spirit, Part 1." It is interesting to note that, immediately after stating this, Dan implies that his diabetes returned, as he

references the need to get insulin shots. He attributes this to the devil. However, Dan's recorded “self-healing" stands in stark contrast to the

healing work done by Jesus and the apostles in Scripture, which gives no indication that any healings were partial or temporary

26 Bohi, "M11 Plenary Service"

27 Ibid

28 Ibid, "Benny" is undoubtedly a reference to Benny Hinn, a prominent member of the Word of Faith movement.

29 Lloyd-Jones, Martin, quoted in "The Lord Told Me-I Think!" emphasis added, Retrieved April 1st, 2013 from

http://www.svchapel.org/resources/articles/20-christian-living/66-the-lord-told-me--i-think

30 "Children's Crusade," Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Crusade

31"Joseph Smith," Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith

32 "Ellen G. White," Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_G._White

33 "The Strange History of Pentecostalism," Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/strange1.htm

34 "The Prophets continue to prophesy..." Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from http://www.letusreason.org/Pent64.htm

35 Even if what is said via divine revelation is true, it does not necessarily validate the seeking after messages in the spirit. Christian talk radio

host Bob Larson once related a story in which a woman called in and told him that the "ghost of Elvis" talked to her and told her to worship

Jesus. While the woman did not claim that this voice was the Holy Ghost, the point here is the same for those who claim to be looking for and

receiving direct words from God: that the statement may be true does not mean that God is the one saying it. One only needs to look at the

possessed woman following Paul and Silas in Acts 16:16-18 to see an example of this.

Furthermore, not all people who claim direct revelation from God do so with honest intent. Peter Popoff, a popular faith healer, was caught

using a radio device in order to manipulate "healings" by which he would receive via radio information about certain audience members and

give the false impression of working miracles (for more information,goto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Popoff).

36 DeWaay, Bob, "The Problem with Personal Words from God" Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from http://cicministry.org/commentary/

issue98.htm

37 MacArthur, "On hearing God's voice, the Dangers of this way of thinking, and the sufficiency of Scripture," Retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from

http://fortheloveofhistruth.com/2012/06/25/on-hearing-gods-voice-the-dangers-of-this-way-of-thinking-and-the-sufficiency-of-scripture/

38One has to wonder why Dan Bohi, if he is so confident in his ability to heal as given by God, does not travel to a hospital and exercise his gift

there.

39 While having its headquarters located in Kirtland, Ohio, the Mormon church claimed to experience charismatic gifts not unlike those

reported by modern charismatics and Pentecostals (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement). And this

says nothing of the religions steeped in the occult, composed of many practitioners who maintain that they too have experienced supernatural

phenomena

40 A comprehensive list of well-known and fruitful Christian ministers who believed that the supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit are no longer

in effect today can be found in the article "What Cessationism is Not," (http://thecripplegate.com/what_cessationism_is_not/). This article also

correctly explains the position of cessationism in contrast to continuationism in order to present the proper understanding that, while

cessationists do not believe that the Holy Spirit works in the same way He did during the apostolic era, the Spirit nevertheless is active and

works today.

41 Polk, Harold "Render unto Caesar... and unto God (pt 1)", sermon given on 4/18/2010, retrieved April 2nd, 2013 from

http://calvarypresbyterianchurch.com/media.php?pageID=41

42 See "I've Got a Feeling!" History of the Modern Gospel, session 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly15dPJPQ5M). About eight minutes into the

video, a segment is featured depicting a phony evangelist who by his own admission at the end of the segment is an atheist. Yet the video of his services

looks no different in appearance than that of a modern faith healer or other charismatic preacher. While this is not meant to suggest that Dan Bohi or other

charismatics are not sincere in their beliefs, it does serve to question whether or not what is seen in charismatic, "Spirit-led"services such as this are truly

manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

All quoted Scripture is taken from the New International Version Classic Reference Bible. Copyright 1989, Zondervan Publishing House

Sunday, November 25, 2012

A must see video. You need to take the time to watch this.

Probably the best resource I have ever watched. It focus's on Rick Warren but ties everything together. Seeker sensitive, mega Church, Emergent Church, New Apostolic Reformation everything. Its 2 hours you really need to watch this.

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Con men and women,false teachers fill the Body of Christ with their lie's and false teaching Part Two

The best way to tell the truth from a lie is to of course study the real deal.
These days we do tend to perhaps dwell to much on all the false stuff going around in Christianity instead of dwelling on the truth.
First one needs to understand what the true gospel is before seeking to expose the false.

A few have even taken the absurd position that a born-again person may ultimately turn away from Christ into unbelief, deny God, and become an atheist--yet still possess eternal life. One writer invented a term for such people: "unbelieving believers"!
Scripture is clear that a saved person can never be lost. It is equally clear that a genuine Christian will never fall back into total unbelief. That kind of apostasy proves an individual was never really born again (1 John 2:19).

Furthermore, if a person is genuinely saved, his life will change for the better (2 Corinthians 5:17). He is saved "for good works" (Ephesians 2:10), and there is no way he can fail to bring forth at least some of the fruit that characterizes the redeemed (cf. Matthew 7:17). His desires are transformed; he begins to hate sin and love righteousness. He will not be sinless, but the pattern of his life will be decreasing sin and increasing righteousness.

You need to settle these critical questions in your own heart. Study the gospel Scripture presents. Listen with discernment to every speaker you hear. Measure everything by the Word of God. Above all, make sure that the message you share with unbelievers is truly the gospel of Christ.
The true gospel is found in the following passages Romans 3:23,Romans 6:23,John 3:16,2 Corinthians 5:21,Heb 9:22, Romans 5:8, Acts 17:30 and Acts 16:30-31,John 1:12,and Romans 10:13.
Now people have changed or distorted and added to the gospel for either personal gain or some other reason.
Dan Bohi the the new latest super star currently in the Nazarene denomination which has also at large allowed the Emergent Church and other heresies into what was once known as a holiness denomination. Dan preaches...
 “So the real gospel is the miracle power, the dutumas (Greek word), and the salvation, healing, deliverance, not just being good enough to go to heaven, but be empowered enough to bring heaven to earth.” (end of quote)” This is a false gospel according to what scripture teaches ( “Take Another Drink 1/9″ on the YouTube: ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVirTXTfAQA&feature=relmfu Minutes 0-2:30) http://youtu.be/NVirTXTfAQA 


The real gospel message is that salvation is by grace through faith (Rom. 6:23), not faith and something you do like baptism or faith and speaking in tongues, or faith and going to a Oneness church, etc.  True salvation is freedom from the requirement of keeping any part of the Law to get or maintain salvation.  True salvation is receiving Christ (John 1:12), being in the body of Christ, and being redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
 If Dan believes in this gospel he is preaching he himself is not saved. I know this is a hard thought but its about time we started exposing those who are preaching a false gospel possibly helping to add hundreds if not thousands to a eternity in hell.
Now be for I start I want to say Dan Bohi is not the only one who is preaching this false gospel so you can take Dan’s name out and invert many others. My focus here is Dan but there are many others wrapped up in this grievous heresy.
Let me also say that many who follow Dan are perhaps good well meaning Christians who are wrapped up in the deception.Some are perhaps zealous for God and revival and have the very best of intentions.

Paul spoke about this in Romans 10:2 King James Version
For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
One of the bigger problem with some of Dan’s followers is that charismatic teachers like Dan tend to  
draw a almost cult type following. 
Dan is a very large man and in the past I have been cautioned against stating anything about Dan's size. The only real reason I bring it up now is because Dan himself often in his speeches brings it up. Why?
Well Dan uses his size in a self deprecating method and in my opinion I think Dan uses this as a strategy to lower emotions and almost make the audience feel sorry for him. It makes his emotionally 
charged speaking hit home more if his audience is going ahhh.
Dan like many preachers and false teachers like Ken Copeland , Bill Johnson and a host of other false 
teachers also teach that the spiritual gifts taught in 1 Corinthians 13 have not ceased.
Funny thing is that the Pentecostal movement has only been around a little more than 100 years and that any evidence of gifts ceased after the Apostolic age.
We can see this through history but it starts with scripture.
 1 Cor 13:8-10
Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

Now here lies the big debate does this mean that the gifts ceased at the end of the canon when the bible was finally put together? Or does this mean when Christ returns?
There lies the debate so lets look at history now.
The Pentecostal denomination has only been around for a little over 100 years and they base this on a latter day outpouring of the Holy Spirit as promised in scripture“And it shall be in the last days, God says, that I will pour forth of My Spirit upon all mankind; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams (Acts 2:17).

Clement of Rome claimed this outpouring took place starting in the early churchClement of Rome (died 100?) reminded the Corinthians that "a full outpouring of the Holy Spirit was upon you all." (Clement of Rome, First Epistle to the Corinthians, 2, ANF, I, 5)
Tongues also ceased  here is a very good article that addresses this http://www.faithfulpreaching.com/The_Gift_of_Tongues_in_the_Post_Apostolic_Church.pdf

So if tongues ceased does that mean that the other spiritual gifts of prophecy, words of knowledge and wisdom would carry on?
No because there was no need . Miracles were not common place in the Old Testament and often were tied to judgement. In the New Testament miracles exploded on the scene to show the world who Jesus and the Apostles were. This was needed because scripture waqs being written and the miracles showed that Jesus and his Apostles and the gospel writers were from God.
I think the assault today is not only on Gods Word but the true ministry of the Holy Spirit. Would the Holy Spirit use His ministry to put His stamp of approval on people like Benny Hinn and Jan and Paul Crouch as well as TBN? Making them filthy rich as they take money from biblically ignorant masses?
No of course not.
The book of Jude also states 

Jude 1:3

New King James Version (NKJV)

Contend for the Faith

Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.

Does God still speak to us today through His voice like He once did to the writers of the Bible?
I once heard a person state that they knew the difference between God talking to them and their own human intuition.
Really? You know that for sure. You may think you know that for sure and even though God would never contradict His word its the Holy Spirits ministry to lead us into all truth. Here is a very good sermon on that http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0050.htm

So instead of letting your own(even your own well meaning passion and love for God) let you tell you the voices in your head are God. Why not just trust in Gods Word.
Everything is already there to lead you into all truth.
Here is what a pastor stated about Dan Bohi. "

Over a year ago while I was in prayer I heard God say invite Dan Bohi or actually what I heard was "It's time for Dan to come."  I didn't hesitate to invite him after witnessing the impact of Dan's ministry personally in different parts of the country and then after having him come to my church for revival in years past. 


Lets examine that statement. First the pastor was not sure exactly what God said because his statement conflicts what was said (2 different commands). And the pastor also stated he invited Dan after seeing what Dan did around the country. If that was what God truly why did the pastor need proof of what Dan was doing? Wouldn't God have already been aware of Dans ministry if He was truly in it.
Im just using Dan as an example here. This happens all over the world with other false teachers like Ken Copeland, Benny Hinn and many others from the TBN gang.
Scripture does state that 

Revelation 22:18-19

New King James Version (NKJV)

A Warning

18 For[a] I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add[b] to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away[c] his part from the Book[d] of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
God did not give us 20-30 blank pages at the end of the Bible to put what God spoke to us. And when God speaks its always revelation. That makes it equal to what is written in scripture. If it is not equal to scripture it is substandard revelation. And God does not utter sub standard revelation. It may be nice and comforting to think that God is personally speaking to us in audible tones. But the fact is God can speak to us everyday through Hid Word if you read it. Trust in the Holy Spirit to bring you what you need.

On healing some would say well God healed me.
Well as much as we should thank God for healing in our lives (and Im 6 years cancer free). It just means God is not finished with us on this earth yet so He allows our lives to be extended.
Yes thank Him everyday you wake up breathing air.
And then go out and share the true gospel of Jesus Christ with a lost and dying world.

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